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US CLO overlap is more than one-third, says Moody's

Wednesday, September 2, 2009

In the latest issue of its CLO interest newsletter, Moody’s points out the high degree of overlap between CLOs, with many owning the same loans. The rating agency calculates that the average name overlap between any two US CLOs is 35%, with European deals having even higher overlap of 38%. The name overlap between two deals from the same manager is even higher, at around 70% (73% for US deals and 67% for European CLOs).


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Comment by: Anonymous. Posted 2 years ago

One way to get distinct portfolios was to delve into the middle market, which clo investors hate, so managers were left with...buying Idearc, which is non-accrual and 42 bid right now.

Comment by: Anonymous. Posted 2 years ago

This shouldn't be a surprise to most CLO investors who read the monthly trustee reports or looked at sample portfolios before investing. The only way a CLO manager could get collateral back in the heyday was to place large positions. Managers who placed small orders would often get bagled and if they really wanted the paper had to buy it at above par from a hedge fund that was flipping.

Comment by: Anonymous. Posted 2 years ago

It's great they made this comment now in late 2009 after investors have experienced downgrades and losses.

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